More than a few women have come to me complaining about how guys make dating extremely difficult because they just won't be upfront about what they want from them.
They scream if men were more upfront, dating would be a more pleasurable experience and us guys would be so much easier to understand.
Apparently you don't like to be left guessing or waiting around forever.
There are many reasons upfront and honest dating is not so easily found. I hear you.
Today's post will cover men being honest with you (when asked or not) if they're just looking for sex with you or something a little more.
You can read about the rest in the post:
I'm sure most of you would appreciate the honesty on the sex part but from my experience and lots of other guys too, it just doesn't always work that way.
Two honest truths about men - one is about sex, the other is not.
Telling a woman we're only looking for sex is not typically in our best interest and can often lead to worse problems with dramatic results we like to avoid.
We're not always sure what we want until we experience it. We need time and space to think about it and feel it all out.
And something about men you might not know:
They believe women are somewhat incapable of handling a purely sexual relationship. At least not in the same way us men can do it.
This belief often comes from their direct experiences, what they've seen and heard from others, and their understanding (or lack of understanding) of the female mind.
In other words, they're not just making it up as they go along and because of beliefs like this one, they will often withhold and not be so direct about looking for sex.
Here's an example from my young personal experience.
I met a woman in college and I was only slightly attracted to her. We talked for about an hour before she asked me to walk her to her car.
She started kissing me and even though I wasn't that interested in her, I went along with it. I was terrible with women at that time so I blame it on being young, frustrated, and desperate.
Yet - call it my brain stepping in, morals, inability to lie, or whatever...
I pulled back and shared my "upfront & honest" thoughts with her:
There was another woman I was chasing and failing miserably to get anywhere with her. I thought I was "in love".
(Actually, I was in a hopeless friends zone situation yet determined to make it work. It didn't. Things got crazy. I was an ass. I left her alone.)
I made my point very clear...
I'm not looking for anything with her but would be open to sex if she's okay with it.
After all it was college and this is what we do, right? Enjoy casual sex.
It felt good to let her know exactly what I expected and what she could expect from me. I liked myself better knowing I could never be the type of guy to use a woman for sex.
To my surprise, she was okay with it and we made plans to spend the weekend together having fun, mostly in bed of course.
I thought my honesty was being rewarded but was proved wrong as the next few, slightly dramatic weeks played out and forced me to learn a few things about women which shaped my beliefs (for better and worse) for the next decade of my life.
The weekend went by and of course I didn't expect to hear from her but not too long later, about a missed period, she came to me upset and told me she might be pregnant.
It was a game she was playing to keep me around and after learning the truth, never spoke to her again.
She showed me what some women were capable of doing to a nice honest guy like me and would do if needed to get the results they wanted.
(Luckily she didn't sour me for women. I understand people are people and "do" things, it happens.)
She strengthened my (somewhat false) beliefs that women can not handle one night stands or casual sex as well as guys, and that they would always want something more.
You'll find many men like my young self who will never believe a woman will ever just have sex without some ulterior motive in mind.
They'll tend to believe it's used as an "upsell" to a relationship she'll want now or later, or used to keep us around just long enough to make us fall in love with her.
Obviously this is not always the case but only SOME men get that casual sex and feelings can get all mixed up. Promises can be made and broken. It's not always a player's game by either side.
Here's the thing with single men...
We see or meet a woman we're physically attracted (and sometimes less depending on the guy) SEX is ALWAYS on the table.
We see. We feel. We desire. We in some way... imagine it and want it.
This in no way means that's all we will ever want or if we will actually follow through with it and try, it's simply a feeling and beyond that, there are more factors that will always come into play.
It can turn into something more but that all comes later because...
When a guy first meets a woman he's NEVER thinking relationship.
(There are exclusions. Some men DO go into instant relationship mode a little too much. They are a segment of the type twos of the world.)
They don't wonder if she's make a great girlfriend or not unless she's doing something drastically weird or strange.
Relationship thoughts are never instant decisions or immediate feelings like sex and attraction.
If a guy begins to date a woman the sex part is still there because of the physical attraction but the rest, the deeper connection, needs time to grow or shrink.
If the relationship thoughts do shrink or disappear entirely, the man is more likely to bring up the sex only talk for obvious reasons... attraction and sex are fun and enjoyable for most.
This switch can happen at anytime or any date too.
There's no real timetable you can rely on every time.
Yes, there are men who "pretend" date you and string you along for sex only to disappear or "excruciatingly slow" turn into somebody else. Leaving you hurt, angry, and confused from the deception.
Trust me, they are rare and you read more here:
Here's the most common scenario...
Most men (at first) are physically attracted to you in some way and date you because of that and a little more.
They're taking the time to decide whether a relationship would be cool with you.
However, some men jump the gun and start a relationship way too early for lots of reasons beyond the scope of today's post.
Once the realize or it's made clear to them it's not what they wanted, the back out making you feel like it was all about sex, when it wasn't.
He just made a bad decision at the wrong time quite possible with what he now believes is the wrong woman for him.
Making all this a huge point for men AND women.
It's hard to be upfront and honest when we ourselves don't know what we really want (or need) and often those wants and needs change as we grow closer to one another.
Most of us "think" we know what we need but until those needs are met, how do we really know it's exactly what we need.
Most of us "want" things and we might be clear about them to ourselves, but not all those wants are good for us. Aside from the rare lies or deception,
Men are not always sure what they want in those early moments.
If they're physically attracted to you, they DO want sex with the possibility of something else happening but telling you that, would probably ruin the possibility of something else happening. Call it a catch 22 or dishonesty - it's just the way things work.
At least that's what they believe or feel.
Most men want to casually date for a limited period of time to decide where to go from there and most will accept the sexual part regardless.
At some point they might decide otherwise but since the sex complicated things, it often becomes confusing during the break up.
It can and will "feel" like you've been used.
To further complicate it all - We (us guys) can and do become more physically attracted to a woman.
Our attraction trigger tends to change with age, personality, experience, closeness, mental and/or physical wellness, what we think we need, what we think we want, what we think we can't have, and of course what we firmly believe we CAN have.
But let's not get into all the today, okay?
What does all this mean to you and the guy you're dating or will date someday?
Most men don't plan on turning into a just sexual affair. They get sucked in because they want sex. Screw up. Agree to things they're not ready for and then back out.
You're not being played. Trust me they're not that clever, willing, or capable of playing you.
You can read all about players and how to assure you NEVER get truly used or played ever again right here:
Most men, when they're physically attracted to you, want to have sex with you.
Telling you that's all they want is impossible when they're not sure themselves about what to expect or where things might go in the future.
Being upfront and honest is a great idea when it comes to attractively communicating what someone is looking for and it's highly advisable to do so early enough, but...
Since so many men believe women are not as accepting, willing, or even capable of casual no-strings attached sex, bringing it up is highly likely to assure it never happens or will be followed by drama or something worse - being trapped in a relationship he didn't want.
He'll do what he can to avoid a quick rejection or failure by refraining or holding back the "sex" talk.
What happens after or during the dating process, sex or no sex, will often have the woman believe or see things from her perspective which is not always wrong or right, but can easily be seen as something else.
As in being lied to or played when in fact - it's not the case.
We'd ALL love complete honesty from those around us. Being upfront is certainly a communicative trait in someone which highly respectable and often prized.
However - When it comes to dating and sex, it's not all this or that.
The lines are often muddled or changed through our beliefs and the experiences which shape them over time.
It may be impossible to be completely honest all the time without ruining or stopping something which wasn't given a chance to even turn into something more.
And it's definitely impossible to communicate something which is not even known to the person.
The quote below makes a clear point that sure, the guy is just being honest based on his feelings, but in the process he only destroys or stops anything from happening in the future because of it...
"You’re on a third date with a guy. He looks you in the eyes, lovingly.
He grabs your hand. He offers up a nervous smile.
And he says, in a romantic whisper…
“You know, I’ve been thinking about you a lot since we first met last Tuesday.
And I feel we’ve got some amazing chemistry that I don’t get very often on my other coffee dates.
For that reason, I think that you could be the one for me.
So… are you dating anybody else right now?
Are you serious about marriage and having kids?
Are you interested in spending the holidays with my family? Where is this relationship going?”
These are the kind of words you want to hear eventually from a guy you’ve learned to care about; they are not what you want to hear from a total stranger who doesn’t know anything about you.
In fact, it’s kind of weird for a guy to “just know” that he wants a commitment with you so soon."